p.j. crawley, do you believe that at any stage either susan rice or hillary clinton has deliberately lied or deliberately misled the american people? >> i think it's a serious charge and a false charge. for americans died in benghazi. we need to understand what happened there. i think it's important to put this in context. after 9/11 we declared war on al qaeda and that conflict is still going on. you have to put what happened in benghazi and what's happening in algeria in the broader struggle context that started in afghanistan and spread to iraq and is in yemen and pakistan and other places. we tend to understand that when soldiers go to war, they die in service to our country and we're grateful that they do that. once the conflict ends, we're left with fragile states with challenging situations and poor, weak governments and that's the construct that chris stevens willingly walked into because he understood that as we see a libya or egypt or tunisia or yemen move forward, the united sta